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Speaker 1: I think training with other people, training with your spouse, training with the person you’re gonna hunt with, or going to a gym is incredibly beneficial. The accountability part of it, the pushing part of it, the community side of it, are really hard to replicate. When you’re doing it by yourself, you’re gonna push harder. When you’re doing it with somebody, you’re gonna be held accountable, and then it’s just more fun. And so those are big pushes. But hey, if you need a stepping stone to get it startup, man, get some stuff to your house out here.
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Speaker 2: The stakes are real. Effective preparation starts with fitness, but it requires so much more. This show explores the tools, knowledge, resilience, and skills.
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Speaker 1: Needed to be ready when it matters the most.
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Speaker 2: Join me Rich Browning as we apply the decades of wisdom I’ve gained through training and competition to hunting in the back country. This is In Pursuit, brought to you by Mount k Thoms.
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Speaker 1: In collaboration with Mayhem Hunt. All Right, in Pursuit we got Angelo and Bird here like that. I guess, yep uh, this is a spike camp. We’ve got no guest, So who’s our last guest. I always have to ask that because.
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Speaker 3: We Todd andersond Anderson, Hey dream that.
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Speaker 1: Video and sauna.
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Speaker 3: He has this tattoo.
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Speaker 1: Oh that’s kind of creepy.
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Speaker 3: It’s like I think it’s I think his wife’s name initials maybe A. I like saw it. I’m like, oh, it looks weird, and I went to go through his Instagram. I go like, it’s like the exact same tattoo. This is something that I thought of in my brain, had Dre do and I saw in jail.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that’s what it looks like.
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Speaker 3: Does it really basically you did have Dre do it? Yeah? I just thought that was weird. I’m like, this is something I thought of in my brains, and I guess he did too.
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Speaker 4: There’s no such thing as original thought, It’s true.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so some pretty cool stuff from a recovery standpoint with Todd. Uh. I mean, sleep is a huge, huge thing. H Breathing strips surprisingly make a big difference on airflow. I wore one for a little while. I just I can’t like the way it looks no on the bridge of my nose. I do like the way it feels. I should probably do it right now with this head crap that I’ve got going on.
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Speaker 4: But uh, do they come in sizes for me?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do get an extra. I wore it sleeping, and I actually kind of liked it, and then I just forget forget about it. That’s my problem is I like some of this stuff and then I completely forget about it and I just.
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Speaker 3: Once you stopped doing it for a while, like, yeah, but I should do that.
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Speaker 1: But but sleep, I think, you know, we we’ve talked a lot about that. I think on here of you know, when you’re going on a hunt, being being as recovered as you can going into the hunt, because sleep, no matter what you’re at altitude. A lot of the times, a lot of places we go your at altitudes, your recovery isn’t the same. Ye you’re usually go, go, go up until the minute you’re sleeping, you’re getting up early, you’re not your nutrition isn’t optimal. So you want to be as recovered as possible. So I think that’s a big takeaway from that, you know, Sauna. Not sure how many people can afford to do that, but it is a huge.
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Speaker 4: I don’t know, I have a tent. Oh yeah, I heard, oh you do, Yeah, And it’s not steam. It’s it’s dry heat.
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Speaker 1: Have you been doing that every day?
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Speaker 3: Every day? Yeah, in the morning or afternoon.
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Speaker 4: After afternoon yeah, uh yeah, head out. No, No, it’s full. I mean it’s not like huge.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to get up to temperatureize.
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Speaker 4: Well, I have it in the basement, which it’s kind of cold in there, but it gets to like when sixty in the summertime, it should get up a little higher.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, yeah, it’s cool.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it’s like I said, it’s super tight. But and since it only gets win sixty, I’ve been doing thirty minutes, not twenty.
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Speaker 1: But is there a like a heater that you can pour water onto or anything?
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Speaker 4: If it has a small heater that’s actually right next to you, so I think it because the heat hits you, so it’s on you. It’s a little hotter. But now if you pour water on it, you electrocute yourself.
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Speaker 3: That’s that’s a that’s pretty cool.
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Speaker 4: Not good, yeah, no, but it is cool.
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Speaker 3: What do you do for the cold punch?
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Speaker 4: You go outside and I don’t do anything but not a big cold punge. No I’m not. But the company I did get a free like cold punch with it. It’s just in the box I don’t have I didn’t buy the chiller for it, so you can’t pour ice, and they have like refreezeable ice for it. But they do also make a little pod. They make a chiller for it that you could also buy.
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Speaker 1: This was an Amazon buy.
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Speaker 4: No, it’s a it’s called the pod company. You’ll get ads.
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Speaker 1: But it’s proximity.
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Speaker 4: No, I mean it. I I think it’s startup ish because when I ordered it, I had to wait like a month, like they only get certain amounts out of the time.
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Speaker 1: Cool. Well, there you go. Angelo’s got a kind of at home one that he made underneath his stairs and I have just a straight barrels on which I love. I did not do this morning. I’ve been a little under the weather and I was like, you know what, I’m asleep thirty extra minutes.
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Speaker 3: This morning, So I do think it’s worse there.
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Speaker 1: I love it, man, that’s something that it’s been really good for me to start a routine.
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Speaker 4: And even like, like I’ve also read like and even AJ said not just sleep, but like as you get older, dementia and yeah, alzheimer. It’s just insane that.
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Speaker 1: It holds that podcast well, taught I don’t even remember.
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Speaker 3: Art disease and dementia’s like times a week they say, is you know, and if you can spread it out and not cram it or whatever, but four times a week they’re saying a bunch of improvements, and it’s like it’s above nineteen minutes, so twenty minutes technically.
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Speaker 1: It’s like sixty to one ninety five or something like that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty minutes. Like what you said is four times a week is like pretty much is the prescription to get the most benefits, like that you can if you do like thirty minutes four times a week, you get a little more benefits. But like it starts to die off like twenty minute mark four times a week, because that’s like the peak where it really where all of it kind of culminates. Like if you do ten minutes, it’s like twenty percent, and then if you do like thirty, it’s like eighty percent, but twenty is like seventy five percent, So it’s like the best bang for your buck with your time.
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Speaker 4: Wonder what would happen if you sauniced and wore a no strip.
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Speaker 1: And gotten the cold plung all at the same time saying with your cold in the sauna. Uh, I did grock my little routine because I’ll go twenty five minutes and then three minutes. And it was like, that’s the most efficient use of your time. It wants you to like actually cycle fifteen minutes, three minutes two or three times, and I’m like, I ain’t taken. I don’t have that time.
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Speaker 3: No, yeah, I’m not gonna do it for like an hour. I have I have done like I on a Sunday or something, I’ll do like just like three or four cycles of it. I think I did. I think the most I’ve done is four cycles. That did twenty minutes and three or twenty and two whatever, I can’t remember for two cycles in the morning, and then I had like I try to drink like a gallon of water between the two of it, and I did twenty and three for two.
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Speaker 1: More rounds in the afternoon.
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Speaker 3: It was like it’s like my whole day though. Yeah, you’re like, not many people are gonna take a whole day to do that, but you feel really good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah with kids like that, but.
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Speaker 3: You do, I mean you do have to make sure you maybe up your water intake a little bit if you add that you’re just working out, like for an hour.
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Speaker 1: I drink hydrate. Ye, I’m in there. I’ll mix in two hydrates and yeah whatever that is twenty something else is yeah, and I make sure I get through that. I’ll put some ice in there too, and like chew on ice and that makes the big.
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Speaker 3: Nice like yeah, when you start to get hot, it’s like a nice little treat. Yeah, like that fifteen minute mark you’re starting to freaking swelter.
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Speaker 1: You have an.
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Speaker 3: App right that you can set it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it’s hume app h u um. And the night before or if I’m out here, no, we’re going to go so on or something, I can crank it on. So it gets it starts an hour before I get up. So when I walk into it, and then I put some weather stripping on there, it’s some one ninety seven now and you don’t feel breeze through there. So that’s pretty good. That’s nice. Yep. So all right, yeah, so I mean recovery. Those are two of the big takeaways I got was sleep obviously, and sauna. I mean, if you want to try no strip it was pretty like eye opening. We’re like, oh wow, I can breathe. I don’t nasal breathe. I can’t. I’ve never even where people were like, yeah, just naseel breathe. No, I have them.
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Speaker 3: He does the mouth tape too, right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, which terrifies me. It’s just weird.
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Speaker 3: I can’t Madison because like that I said, I was telling him. I was telling Madison about his tattoo. I was like, saw a video whatever, and I was talking about on the podcast, and uh, she goes, yeah, I know that is I’m like, okay, cool, cool. I didn’t know how. She’s like, yeah, I bought his mouth tape. She’s like, I never used it, Like I’m too scared. She’s like I either he’s sponsored by or there were works with. Yeah, She’s like, I’m too scared to you. She has it like inside try it’s just about days she won’t use Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I just I feel like, you know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So it was pretty cool.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that stuff. I love that stuff. I just think it’s super cool. Like I was. I was just talking about it when I was working at the fire department about how much like I want a sauna and I’m like, the man, they’re kind of expensive. And then one of the guys there he just like he just did construction, like grown up and everything. He goes, oh, we can build one, like like okay, I can’t. He’s like, I’ll help you.
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Speaker 1: We’ll build it.
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Speaker 3: And so we just freaking put it together under my stairs. They got the Harry Potter sauna. And if it’s not a perfect angle, I know if you ever worked with wood at an angle you probably have. It’s like sixty two degrees. You’re cutting it all it is. It was a nightmare. We cut a lot of pieces wrong. So we got it right because like you, you try to like you kind of measure it.
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Speaker 1: And then the stairs, well you you I don’t know if you ever went through this. You do a light half or a heavy half? Yeah, yep, dude, my dad, you should yell at me all the time. Oh yeah, you know he’s like eight inches and a heavy half.
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Speaker 3: Oh oh see, Like I’ll do that, and my my dad will be like, what the hell are you talking about? You can’t do you can’t. It needs to be an exact number, like, but there is no exact number. It’s different. Look at it half different.
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Speaker 1: Heavy half or light half? Which side do you put the saw on? Yeah? Yep?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, we we burnt through some wood. But no, it’s really cool. I enjoyed building it. I could probably do it again if I got if if I moved houses, I would not do it at an angle again. I would build a square in a corner somewhere, just like how.
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Speaker 4: Most you have like a full you put in a two twenty, you have a full.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, my box is full. It was full before that and it is full now full. Like, yeah, I’m surprised, we’re not. I’m surprised is not gonna freaking blow the meter?
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Speaker 1: All right, well, uh, kudos to Jeff Dodds. We’re actually gonna put some type of structure and have a something teach of these episodes. It’s hard and off season to make sure you guys are getting what you need to get out of these, you know, when we’re not hunting.
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Speaker 3: In the season. All kinds of stories.
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Speaker 1: We have stories and all that. So Jeff has done a good job here kind of giving us some notes keep us on track at least getting us in moving in the correct direction. So yeah, who wants to take it?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like basically what we were talking about is investing in yourself and in your fitness, not just the stuff the gear. Yeah, I mean we, I mean we’re all. We all like good gear. I mean Bird really does. Bird really likes his nice his nice gear. Like I know, I don’t like, Hey, we all do. We all like our nice gear. But that is not the most imporant thing.
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Speaker 1: You know, who likes the gear the most in this room? Scott? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Those uh those so those packs are so intuitive, they’re intuitive the.
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Speaker 3: Initial Yeah, I mean, obviously having good gear does matter, but there is a certain point where the gear is going to make the difference. No, it does not gonna make the difference. Like, of course, you want to be comfortable, and you want to have like stuff that fits you and stuff that can keep you either cool if it’s really hot, or stuff that if it’s really cold. You need to have stuff that doesn’t just absolutely smother you. You need to be somewhere in between and then been depending on what kind of honey you’re doing, like if you’re even if but even if you’re white tail hunting, you don’t want to be just well, actually, Bird, you have a good story. That’s why you got that’s why you invested in good Camo because you said you were right. You were like so bound for sure you couldn’t draw out into the dear.
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Speaker 4: Which not an elk, but they’re biggest, honestly biggest deer I’ve ever seen in my live, biggest white tail. And it was freezing cold Illinois at buds Uh it was freezing cold and raining, so and I sat. It was midday.
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Speaker 3: He walked up hill both ways.
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Speaker 4: No, it was just freezing, like the my tree stand was like frozen to the to the tree, like you could see it. But I had just a bass pro, huge coverall and I was warm. However, when the deer came, I had so many clothes on I could I could, I couldn’t get my anchor point because it was just too much. And then after that I was like, okay, because it’s like, I know Western guys understand this because it’s less gear, and of course like that stuff mattered, but white tail hunting some people are like, what’s it matter? As long as it’s warm, but like, and probably for gun hunting that is true if you’re not moving, but archery it does matter, like being able to move, hit your anchor points and all that. So after that is when I said, okay, I’m going to invest in lighter weight clothing that is still just as warm. And I know it’s all expensive.
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Speaker 1: But however, that’s another podcast. We’re talking about fitness, investing in your fitness as the.
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Speaker 4: Biggest part of your Yeah, yeah, that’s because that didn’t matter.
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Speaker 1: No, fitness doesn’t matter in that. But I mean it is one hundred percent true, Like people are willing to spend and we’re not. You know, obviously our bias is the fitness side of it, because that’s what we do and that’s what we I mean, truthfully, is what we sell. However, man, why would you spend all these thousands of dollars? Well, depending on the style of hunt you’re going on, you’re you’re going to spend.
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Speaker 3: At least you spend at least thousand on gear.
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Speaker 1: Then you’ve got a tag that’s not cheap, usually around one thousand, and then depending on what kind of access you’ve got outfitter, either an outfitter, even if you’re going public land, you’re still a couple thousand dollars in. So why would you let your fitness or your body be your biggest Yeah, you.
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Speaker 4: Don’t want to show you don’t want to show up with all these external things and then not be ready exactly to tackle them out.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, because all really, all the things we’re talking about is somewhat is expensive to invest in. The only thing that’s like you’re paying for the fitness with your time. As long as you have like thirty minutes to an hour a day, it is a big investment. Yeah, for sure, But we’re I mean, we’re not talking about giving us four hours your day. We’re talking about really an hour. I think for most people, one hour, five times a week can get you to a place where you will feel like one hundred times better in the woods.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean that’s exactly why we exist. What we’re trying to do is get you guys ready for those hunts. But you know, that’s our soft plug. So like if somebody is, you know, they’re just trying to start right and they don’t want to use an app, they don’t want to spend the money. So I think one of the things they need to do is figure out what is their weakness. Is it strength? Is it cardio? Is it a mix of bowls? Is it time on their feet? Is it mobility? Yeah? And when we say mobility, I think you know moving your body, moving your body through a range of motion, not necessarily just you know, stretching per.
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Speaker 3: Sea, like stepping up and over logs, Yeah, stepping.
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Speaker 1: Over a box or a cooler or whatever. Because when you get out there and you get off of off balance, you know, you may not always have to step down off something, but if you slip off like that’s a big part of preparation. I think is is having the strength in different range of motions when things aren’t in a perfect scenario, you slip, you do whatever, like you know, I think we get a lot of not a lot of pushback, but I think a lot of guys are like, why am I doing bench? Why am I doing this? It’s it’s you know, we want to make sure that if you do fall, if you do have to grab onto something, there isn’t this uh you know, quick stretch or whatever that So I think defining where you are and I think a good test to do that is, you know, testing different parts of fitness. That’s what we try to push of, Like, hey, we don’t want you guys to be the strongest person in the gym. We don’t want you to be the most you know, cardio efficient. We don’t, you know, I think the range of motion and haven’t strengthened range of motion is huge. I don’t think we want to negotiate any of that. Like that’s why we push moving through entire ranges of emotion. We don’t do a lot of half range of emotion. We don’t do a lot of those types of things, which there are benefits to those types of things and strengthening and in those different ranges of emotion.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but for the for well, I’ll back up, yeah, I’ll back up even and say like this is the same approach any and we like to think about I think we were talking about on one of the podcasts we did about like if you’re going out to hunt, especially out west or even public land in the East, you are doing something very athletic, Like you need to consider you need to think about yourself as an athlete. And that’s like and that’s how we train, you know, the the crossfoit athletes or even if you are not doing cross if you’re playing baseball, if you’re playing football, you are you’re identifying those weaknesses as an athlete to what can I get better on, especially through the offseason. Like it’s not just for crossfaders or hunters or you know, for whatever sport you’re playing, you need to identify those weaknesses, and the only way to do that is to be hitting a bunch of different kinds of workouts, where like some guys and I do think this is very effective, like going out and doing a rock obviously super what we would call sports specific to what you’re doing. It’s very specific to the thing you’re going out there to do. But if I were to go out here and walk these trails, and yeah, they’re very similar, I’m going to go out west and they might be maybe a little different. I’ve only been the only that adaptation I’ve had is to these trails. Exactly. If I don’t ever come in here and do like push ups and sit up and squats and then put the ruck on and go back out and come back and do big box stepovers and push a sled and carry a sandbag and fit in all these other options that I’m not gonna be I’m only gonna be prepared for literally walking that trail with my rock.
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Speaker 1: And I would also say it’s super repetitive. Yeah, and you will start to break down eventually and burn out. It’s boring, like it is fun in the beginning, and you know, I always want to be in nature and be out doing things. But you’re doing the same thing. You know. I’ll get in modes where I’m like, I’m gonna do this every day and I’m gonna get good at this, and then about three or four weeks in I’m like, all right, I’m bored of this time.
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Speaker 4: Which and we have talked to a lot of hunters, yeah, who will just ruck yep, Yeah, and they’re like, Nope, the Gemp’s not for me, which, like you said, especially if you don’t have and those are experience probably more so experience, and they go to the same places I think, or maybe they lives where they where they held there. Yeah that, but every state you go to is different to your point. So and honestly, if like you’ve never been to that outfitter, you’ve never been in that public land, you might not know what you’re going into, which play does play a huge difference.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it’s a whole unknown thing.
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Speaker 4: Like just just overall fitness is actually pretty important if you have no idea what you’re getting in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get to change it up. I mean that’s why we all like cross.
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Speaker 1: I Mean, you could have a good basis of three days a week of rucking for an hour and then mix in, you know, two to three days of just some of this body weight or external load moving different things or moving your rock, and you know we’re going to get to that, but there’s you know, we’re gonna come out with a just a complete rock program, but using your pack as a different it’s gonna be free.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually talked about free and free. Well, I think maybe a very very nominal cost or just an initial cost of buying the halfs and you get a free ruck if it’s if it’s gonna be if it’s gonna cost you anything, be anominal. I actually did talk to somebody who is doing that rock Race league. I don’t know any I don’t really know anything about that, but he was like, uh, so, do you guys are like rock specific workouts. I’m like, hey, it’s funny you asked me that right now, Like we are we literally just talk about that like a couple of days ago. I said, uh, the base, all this stuff we’re saying here, So I think we’re gonna probably do that this summer. Kind of that use that as like guys prep like if you are prepping or if you are if you haven’t ever done any kind of hunt prep, then it’s gonna be kind of like, hey, here’s a low barriered entry option. Just try it out, like you don’t have to do anything else, but hopefully our goal is hopefully you like that and you want to kind of go step into that next level and say, Okay, what else is on here? Because I think people think about like, oh, it’s just CrossFit. It isn’t. I mean, we use the CrossFit ideas because that’s what we know, right, but that’s not It is just like you said, it’s a lot of different fitness and movements that gets you through the full range of motion because and and like you said about like a press that it is maybe not the most specific to going out the hunt, but you are gonna be drawing, drawing your bow a lot, and you, Scott, you are gonna fall down.
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Speaker 1: If you’re Scott, You’re gonna fall down a thousand and two times.
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Speaker 3: You’re gonna probably fall down hard. And we’re just we’re trying to hit especially all of the different muscles from different angles. If all you do is draw your bow back, Like everyone knows that guy who only bench presses, he walks around like this, Yeah, and then and then maybe that guy who only draws his bow walks around like this, he’s just got this little bird. Not you bird, not you bird.
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Speaker 1: I don’t know.
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Speaker 3: I haven’t seen the shirt off lately. Ye be able to I’ve been able to identify with.
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Speaker 1: You know, and I think people get either intimidated or yeah, you know, I don’t want to go to a gym cool man. Like every year, you know, you look at what your hunting budget is, and I think, Dodds, we have one coming up as I was looking through the notes eventually of like, hey, what’s your budget for the year. Well, if you have any surplus, go to some of these podcasts where we’ve talked about, you know, some gear you could buy and make a home gym like you don’t have. I think training with other people, training with your spouse, training with the person you’re gonna hunt with, or going to a gym is incredibly beneficial. The accountability part of it, the pushing part of it, the community side of it, are really hard to replicate. When you’re doing it by yourself, it’s you’re going to push harder. When you’re doing it with somebody, You’re gonna be held accountable and then it’s just more fun. And so those are big pushes. But hey, if you need a stepping stone to get it started, man, get some stuff for your house. And I think, once again, we’ve done these podcasts and I saw somebody there’s a comment where it was like this this is the most unrelatable hunting podcast ever. You’re just like, dude. It was just having a little bit of fun of like, hey, you want to build a home gym. Here it is. But you could go line by line and be like, all right, you know I liked Angelo’s list. Let me take number one and let me just buy a dumbell. Right, that’s a good start. Yeah, you can buy cheap dumbbells. You can go to rogue, or you can go on Facebook marketplace. There’s always people getting rid of stuff. You can get big plates, you can buy bar bell whatever. Get started doing some of that. I think, you know, talking about making sure your body is the most prepared system.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you shouldn’t have you don’t want to put gosh, what is it? Uh, there’s a saying and I can’t think of right now, but you don’t want to have a thousand dollars pack and have done literally all you know how to do is put stuff in it, Like you don’t even know how it feels when you put in your back and carry it around.
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Speaker 4: Until your point about doing it with somebody, especially if you go in public land hunting. I mean, I know there’s dudes out there, but a lot of times you have a hunting parts are incredible what I mean by themselves. Yeah, I don’t see how you do it. But a lot of times you have somebody you’re planning a trip with two, so you could push each other, give me virtual pushing. You could say, hey, what what was your time? What was your weight on?
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Speaker 2: This?
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Speaker 3: Isn’t that kind of how the group chat started, like the man group man sharing workouts about like what you were doing to prepare for him.
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Speaker 1: I still need to get back into that group chat. You did get join? You did? I forgot about? Sorry? Whoops? Uh, you cannot serve. You’re either with us or you’re against us.
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Speaker 3: You know that’s so good.
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Speaker 1: Loyalty comes with a price. Uh, Man, this one hits hard. Uh he’s got some lines on here. Uh. Your hunting career has an expiration date, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, Like yeah, and I mean that is that’s exactly what we’re talking about pushing that back. Like everything, really, everything you’re going to be able to do physically with your body, there is going to be an end date, Like you may not even know what it is, but there is going to probably be a season where you’re just like a man, I can’t like, I can’t go out west this year. We want to push that back as late as possible. A great way to do that as fitness, Yeah, I mean you have to you have to keep moving through I mean how often do we see how often do you see or hear about people who like they move all the time, like sixty seven year old people, and then as soon as they get injured, sixty or seventy sorry, seventy eight aund the corner. Sorry yeah, yeah, you’re right, sixties really not that old. I’ve I’ve started to understand understand that when.
00:26:20
Speaker 4: You were little, you thought thirty was super old.
00:26:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like eighty year old people like you hear about this is exactly what happens when someone’s eighty years old and they’re like in great shape, they’re moving, and then they fall and break their hip and then they are in the hospital for a week and then it’s just a downhill slide after that. That’s exactly how it happens. Once you stop moving then that’s when like that’s when I mean.
00:26:39
Speaker 4: Which I’ve said it on here before, but especially like posts forty because a lot of dudes maybe they’ll go on their hunt and then they’ll just stop working out like they prepare and then they hunt, and then they just stop till the next year, and then eight weeks six weeks before they try to which twenties, thirties, that’s fine, However forty.
00:26:58
Speaker 3: Five, like it’s, yeah, you need to start moving out a year.
00:27:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like when you take eight weeks off, it’s hard.
00:27:04
Speaker 4: Yeah it is, didn’t not move but like six weeks isn’t long enough?
00:27:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, yeah, you needed you should be doing something all year, and like that’s I mean, I I do think about that when I’m writing these programs. When you’re right when you’re doing the workouts in the beginning of the year, there’s a certain focus for what you’re gonna build into later on, and then a certain focus and then even in season, there’s a certain.
00:27:29
Speaker 1: Focus about to say, even when you’re on hunts, and if it’s not a physically demanding hunt, you know it’s an Elk camp. I’m not thinking about doing anything extra. There were years where I drink some stuff. They get, oh yeah, yeah, we’re gonna Sita. I think I’ve worked out one time at Elk camp because we did sit for eight hours. I worked out one one time one time. And uh. But now when I go white tail hunting, I bring something for the middle of the day, I or else one. I don’t. I don’t think I’m gonna lose a couple of days. But I also feel better and I’m more present it in that set because I do something.
00:28:02
Speaker 3: But it’s Scott get after it when we’re when we’re hunting together too.
00:28:05
Speaker 1: Yeah we can’t.
00:28:06
Speaker 3: We can’t stop. Yeah right, but no, but no, no, no, but it is season.
00:28:10
Speaker 1: There is that like, oh, I’m out in the woods. You know, even if you’re just sitting in a stand, you’re like, well, I was cold, so my body was burning. Kellories what you are, but you’re not. I see whatsoever?
00:28:23
Speaker 3: If I I mean, I do agree, if I’m going to go for like a weekend hunt, I might take a couple of days off. I don’t think I’m that crazy to say that you’re a maniac. We can all agree, but if I’m going to go for a week long like white tail hunt, I do want to do something because.
00:28:37
Speaker 4: I’m pounding them little debbies too. Yeah, you are, especially like say white tail season November, those Christmas treet cakes come out.
00:28:46
Speaker 3: It’s dangerous. It’s so dangerous. And then but yeah, the focus of even the end season stuff is I do think about things like that, where like, like he’s saying, if even if you are on a hunt and all you have is a hack and some dumbbells, We’ll write a thirty minute workout for the middle of the day and it won’t be something as crazy, oh, but it’s just moving. But had you’re being able to do something.
00:29:09
Speaker 1: And then.
00:29:11
Speaker 3: A huge focus that I like to think about is like the joint health stuff during that time, because you’re you’re not even you, You’re not like going out there. You know, sorry, you don’t know what I’m about to say. Even you, You’re not like bringing a barb bell out there. You’re not like doing two seventy five backs. There’s no reason, but you’re gonna go out there, and we want to just keep those joints moving and keep them healthy so when you do get back, like we can start that rebuilding process. You’re not starting from freaking scratch.
00:29:36
Speaker 1: And I’ll also think about, hey, I’m not going to do an upper body crazy workout if i’m drawing my Oh yeah, you don’t want to be. It might just be some great stuff or just moving. I just feel better when I move. That’s just and I am a little bit I’m an outlier. I get that.
00:29:50
Speaker 4: But there are guys everyone feels better when they Yeah.
00:29:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure.
00:29:53
Speaker 1: I could not get Watkins or Billings to work out when.
00:29:56
Speaker 4: Esay’s workout was awesome.
00:29:57
Speaker 3: By the way, Oh thanks, I’ve heard that. That’s here the second person and say that it was good.
00:30:01
Speaker 1: Frank, it was. It was like it was.
00:30:03
Speaker 4: It’s tough unless you’re in like full fledged gym, like you need to just scale some stuff. It was ten burpie box over. It was three rounds, so it was ten and then thirty twenty ten clean and jerks rest two minutes in between sets.
00:30:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like that.
00:30:19
Speaker 1: So you do ten burpey box get overs, you do thirty clean and jerks rest two minutes, ten burpey box get overs, twenty clean and jerks rest two minutes, ten urpey box get overs, ten clean and jerks a little heavier, the weight increased each time.
00:30:33
Speaker 3: Nice, that middle round is so bad, right, I knew the middle round is the hardest round.
00:30:38
Speaker 4: Now I usually do the boon and young version does does a little mixed, a little mix it would you fall fifteen? No, I’m not quite like.
00:30:49
Speaker 1: To that.
00:30:49
Speaker 4: Like I didn’t want to do one eighty five on the last one.
00:30:51
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so sixty five.
00:30:53
Speaker 4: I did ninety five one fifteen five Okay. Yeah, I’m like I’m a tweener in there.
00:31:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, the master scale.
00:31:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I’m gonna take a step back here. And I think the rock program that we were talking about earlier is perfect for the people that live far away from a gym, you know, if they live in a rural area or just like traffic or whatever. But also it’s perfect for the guy that absolutely hates going to the gym. You know, they can go just in the neighborhood or just you know, put on your hunting back back, go walk your dog, walk with your wife.
00:31:31
Speaker 1: Something.
00:31:32
Speaker 5: Just yeah, it’s it’s perfect for the person that isn’t accustomed to the gym system, the traditional gym membership program.
00:31:41
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. Yeah, And I mean that’s the idea. And also not even that you have to. We’re trying to make it where you don’t know if you have a backpack like obviously a backpack is probably not the best because it will deteriorate. But if you have a pack like a hunting pack, or if you have a rock like, that’s all all you will need. That’s the goal. I can’t see I’ve been looking at duds now I can’t see anything.
00:32:04
Speaker 1: Uh. And I’ll and I’ll say this too, like those to those guys that don’t want to go to a traditional gym, I would say a CrossFit gym is about as far away from a traditional gym setting as you could possibly get. You’d be surprised at how much you’d probably fit in there for sure, versus like a you know, people putting their headphones on going in just yeah, grinding if you like to go, if you know, that’s a I’m a homer when it comes to that, but I one believe that you would be surprised at how much you would probably fit in as an anti gym goer acrosswitch. I know, and people think, oh, it’s a culton whatever, but you’d be fine.
00:32:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
00:32:42
Speaker 1: It gives you all the kind of stuff that you could everything.
00:32:45
Speaker 3: Quit then you need. Yeah, you are when you’re at when you’re on a hunt. There’s very few people who do go out and just solely hunt by themselves. You have to be a savage to do it. Out West anyways, a lot of people, even if you are hunting by yourself, you probably have a base camp with a bunch of other guys and you all are like scattering out you’re doing similar days and you’re coming back or you’re hunting together. A lot of those people are probably gonna be at that gym that’s.
00:33:09
Speaker 1: Near you, like yeah uh.
00:33:11
Speaker 3: If you’re out west, or if you’re in those rural areas like he’s saying, you’re probably gonna actually find other people like that, and then you will start to create connections that way as well. And even the worst, like the worst case scenario, there’s nobody there that’s hunting, and there’s probably for people who are interested in it, and then you can like talk to them about that, they can talk to you about Crossman and then you make this kind of sounds corny, but you end up making a friend. You end up making a friend, and you guys, you guys like I just want.
00:33:39
Speaker 1: To hunt with my friend.
00:33:40
Speaker 3: You guys like you guys have swapped this interest and now maybe they’re interested in it. And then now you’re interested. Now you’re more interested in going to the gym. There is something for sure and this both of them go back to this like that community aspect. You’re hunting with like five guys and you go and you work out, and you know, like, you know, Bob is gonna be at the eight am class, and you’re gonn like, I’m not gonna, you know, I’m gonna. I’m gonna go at eight am. He’s gonna be there, So I want to I want to be there.
00:34:04
Speaker 4: I believe it’s iron sharpens iron.
00:34:06
Speaker 3: Iron sharpens iron as one man sharpens another.
00:34:10
Speaker 5: Also, if you aren’t that guy, say you know, you’re like, oh, I don’t need to prepare physically for a hunt, go to one CrossFit gym and meet all of the fit guys.
00:34:20
Speaker 3: So when you need help, want to pack out.
00:34:22
Speaker 1: You can call some friend ye local crossed gym. Yeah, so you know, just just some key things I think is get moving, just start somewhere. I you know, I think we have a really good place to start. It’s not anything crazy. But if you know you’re like, hey, I don’t even want to use an app. I want to do it by myself, then just get moving, throw a pack on, start doing that, do some air squats, do some pull ups.
00:34:50
Speaker 4: And even if you’re like, you can’t go and CrossFit gym because some people are like, I know, yesterday’s was cleaning jerks, but that’s like as crazy as it gets, as far as Mayhem hunt, you know what I mean. Like, the movements are fairly basic.
00:35:05
Speaker 1: Basic you could and you could. There are different scales that you could do. If you don’t have that, you could, I mean, you could rocking and jerk, you could ruck, snatch whatever you wanted to do.
00:35:13
Speaker 3: But you get use a kettle kettlebell swing like I have. I have man find us knees. I think about this, it was on that, it was on the weird face. It’s on the tip of my nose for a while. I think about this when I’m writing the programs, and like, I mean, obviously Jeff has thought about it too. They’re like, how can we write something that’s that is that we think is effective and that we can and we can draw in other people who may not want to do this CrossFit.
00:35:43
Speaker 1: Can we get them into our cult? Yeah?
00:35:44
Speaker 3: How can we get them into our cult? How can we get them to be doing something and with some structure to it. That’s the I mean, that’s that’s the whole idea is like, yeah, we do want you to do something, of course, and if you want to go and just rock, fine, as long as that’s as long as you’re out there moving, you’re doing something. But we yeah, I mean we think about how can we write something that this person would like and that person would like and keep them on there, to keep them on some kind of structured program, so you are doing something all year long, so you’re not like, you’re not the guy who, like, after your last hunt in middle of November or something, you’re like, A, that’s it for me. I’ll see I’ll see the pack and I’ll see the hunting equipment, you know, next August.
00:36:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean gets start, find something, get moving. I think once again, find somebody that you can either hold accountable or be held accountable too, and do something together. Get into some type of community. A couple guys, you know, wife, whatever you want to do, husband, if you if your wife. But yeah, I think it’s it’s just start, you know, get that date on the calendar of Hey, I’m gonna do this hunt, right yep, and hey, maybe six day weeks out, have something else that you’re training for. Give you like a stepping stone. Hey, even if it’s a local five k ye, it’s like, hey, I’ve got this five k and it’s two months out for my hunt, but that’s what I’m gonna train for. But it gives you something relatively close or a little little pressure, you know, like not not anything that you’re it’s over your head, but like it’s stepping every six to eight weeks. Give you something because it’s hard to be like, man, I got a hunt in September, I want to lose for that hunt and keep pushing it off, keep pushing it off where it’s like stay in shape year round, where you don’t have to get in shape. Ever you might have to put a little bit more emphasis on it or a little bit more structure when you get closer, but have stuff to train for throughout the year. I just been it’s been helpful to me. I’m going to cut off here.
00:37:36
Speaker 5: What can you guys identify some of your guys’s weaknesses or things that you need.
00:37:42
Speaker 3: Angelo just kidding, Yeah, joint health, that’s my.
00:37:47
Speaker 5: Just like last September, when you know, you guys were out there, were there anything that you’re like, Okay, coming back, I’m going to start working on these things always.
00:37:55
Speaker 3: Well bird, you said like right after they came back, Right after you came back, You’re like, I think I want to start doing and I and I put this into the program because you said it that I want to start moving a light sled for a long distance, like putting one plate on it.
00:38:08
Speaker 4: I mean, especially working out with Rich it’s always heavy sled for two hundred feet, which is short.
00:38:17
Speaker 3: But you want like one plate or even empty sledge. Yeah, some kind of because some of the some of the hills you just go ya.
00:38:23
Speaker 4: I mean, so just to mimic that as much as possible, uh was definitely.
00:38:29
Speaker 3: And I should have tied this into the range of motion thing. When I’m hunting with my saddle, I like to if I can, I like to be sky high and sometimes I am like stepping and I’m like doing a pull up and I’m like pulling my knee up h and I’m I’m literally scaling this tree. So if you think and what I’m with the pushback of good is. I don’t want to saddle if you’re gonna be if you’re gonna be a hanging hunt kind of guy. Anyways, most people want to be higher. I don’t want to see I’m tired of seeing guys five feet off the ground. Eight feet off the ground. Dude, get fifteen twenty feet up in the air. And the only way to do that is you could buy you know, one hundred sticks. You’ll be out there climbing the tree for an hour, give four or five sticks, get high in the tree. The only way you’re gonna get high the trees is if you work on your range motion in your hips and then and you’re out of the you’re outside the deer. The deer, you know, their eyes are three four feet in the air. They’re not gonna be looking up at twenty feet unless you get that old long nosed dough she’ll pick you out. You’re a brand new tree.
00:39:32
Speaker 1: She’ll pick you out. Cool. Yeah, So I think be able to lookout for we are coming out with the rock program. I think looking at maybe a concept of a prey shoot train, so a little devotional shoot your gunner bow and work out. So some cool stuff to come. Yep, what you got, Scott? Good cool? Yeah, those are things on the horizon. You want to give him a workout of the week. We did that in the last I think let’s do it will fly last time.
00:40:07
Speaker 3: Okay, oh oh, you want to make one on a fly. Yeah, yeah, let’s make a rock work out on the fly. So let’s say you take your ruck. Let’s go.
00:40:17
Speaker 1: Five k in every two minutes, ten push ups, ten squats.
00:40:24
Speaker 4: You know, it always makes me laugh about when people ruck this total sidebar, but I get it.
00:40:32
Speaker 1: Are you walking and running.
00:40:34
Speaker 4: Sailors are say there’s a run with a bunch of guys, because when I run, it’s pretty much the same speed.
00:40:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, whether I have a ruck owner or whether you’re walking or running, it’s all the same.
00:40:48
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:40:48
Speaker 4: Like the seff weight on my back really doesn’t bother me that much, so it’s same speed. I’m slow either way. But like when the guy’s like he’s he knows he’s slow and everyone else is running fast, but he puts a ruck on. Yeah, so then when he finishes, at least you can say, oh, yeah, that was slow, but I ran mind with yeah.
00:41:10
Speaker 1: Yes, uh.
00:41:11
Speaker 3: We talked about that the other day. Yeah, just like I can run slow, I don’t run more five k ruck thirty pounds for guys is the usual weight that we talk about. Thirty pounds for guys, twenty pounds for ladies in the pack, and then every two minutes ten push ups.
00:41:26
Speaker 1: Yeah good, I like it.
00:41:28
Speaker 3: Runner walk I don’t like Yeah, right, runner, I have to do more.
00:41:32
Speaker 1: Push ups if you walk. Yeah, it’s gonna hurt a little bit more if you run.
00:41:36
Speaker 3: So yeah, we choose find something between is the best idea. Yeah, find a trail, Dude, on a trail. Even better you start with ten push ups. Yeah, you gotta start with to start, find a trail. If you find a trail that only goes up hill, makes a push ups easy both hills, both up uphill, both ways in the snow.
00:41:52
Speaker 5: Richard’s Rock Regiment.
00:41:54
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, Peace,
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